Mar 23, 2026
Kevin O’Leary and Martin Cech discuss a proposed cross-market mega merger between Sutter Health and Allina Health, including the combined scale, planned $2B regional investment, and skepticism that such mergers improve quality or lower costs despite c

Kevin O’Leary and Martin Cech discuss a proposed cross-market mega merger between Sutter Health and Allina Health, including the combined scale, planned $2B regional investment, and skepticism that such mergers improve quality or lower costs despite claimed efficiencies.
They’re joined by John Zutter, CEO of Lantern, who explains Lantern’s distributed “surgeons of excellence” approach versus traditional centers of excellence, its concierge patient experience, and how it selects providers using regulatory, clinical, appropriateness, and patient-reported outcomes data; he also shares context on Lantern’s $30M round and utilization-driven differentiation.
The episode also covers CMS remarks on steering beneficiaries toward accountable care relationships, early rollout challenges and backlash around Washington’s Wiser model and prior auth, a CMS timing change spurring state directed payment applications, and a funding/deal roundup including Doximity, Verily, Latent, Turquoise Health, Conduit Health, and Nadia Care, plus a stalled Qualtrics–Press Ganey deal due to debt markets.
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